Preceding unsigned comment added by Deemery (talk contribs) 16:08, 26 December 2012 (UTC), In 1943 you joined the army, enlisting as an Army Ranger. Charles Durning Height, Weight & Measurements At 89 years old, Charles Durning height is 5' 8" (1.73 m) . Total mustering out pay was $300 $100 was paid at the time. Durning was present for the Battle of the Bulge, the German counter-offensive in December 1944. I have put some editing only text above the section warning editors not to edit that area. It also states that Durning was drafted in 1943 at the age of nineteens shortly before his twentieth birthday. Charles Durning is indeed a great actor and served his country honorably during WWII, including his landing at Normandy on D-Day. Thinking about how veterans of that era typically talk about the Army with regard to administrative matters only confirms this feeling that such records may be largely inaccurate. Kaspazes talk 13:00, 29 December 2006 (UTC), User:Monkeyzpop has made an edit to this article about some statement that Burt Reynolds supposedly made on a TV show, that he is disputing. Incredibly subjective. But it should be possible to ask them whether they have kept a record of this speach. Durning is the only survivor of a unit that landed on Omaha Beach that June 6 in 1944. He describes in detail being captured by Germans and escaping, but NOT as part of the Malmedy events--not even at the same period of time. Having a successful career in the military is a major accomplishment. Charles Durning was born on 1923-02-28. Durning was honored with three Purple Hearts and a Silver Star. Charles Durning, an American actor , plays Mayor John Fitzgerald, father of Rose Fitzgerald Kennedy, in the TV mini-series 'The Fitzgeralds And . They were fighting at Bitche, France, 200+ kilometers from Malmedy at the time of the Massacre. I hope to get some kind of interview with him that can be published in order to cite these things, but with his current condition, I'm not sure it can be accomplished. Shearonink (talk) 19:53, 9 June 2019 (UTC), Not so far as I can tell, information does not appear in cited souces. in the Battle of the Bulge, he and the rest of his company were captured and forced to march through a pine forest at Malmedy, the scene of an infamous massacre in . Aedwardmoch (talk) 05:35, 8 November 2008 (UTC)AedwardmochAedwardmoch (talk) 05:35, 8 November 2008 (UTC), There are different ways to calculate "most decorated" and it's exacerbated by the fact that some awards are delayed by decades. I have known of Charles Durning as an accomplished actor for many years. Also, we got Paul Newman to do the voiceover which was fun I directed him over the phone but he did his performance at the end of a recording session for the animated feature, Cars, and he was very old by then so most people didnt even recognize his voice (which was a lesson to me in voice talent). The statement of Reynolds does however not mean that the name of the survivors are wrong or unknown. Is it him, or someone who really looks like him? Durning received the French National Order of the Legion of Honor from the French Consul in Los Angeles in April 2008. Unless someone has a contradictory source, or different experience with the Frances/Francis spelling/gender distinction, I believe the section should assume she is a sister. Zodiac. But some quick Google searches, including this database of citations: http://www.homeofheroes.com/members/04_SS/2_WWII/indexes/army/Army-D.html does not contain the name Charles Durning. He is not credited for being in Star Wars at IMDB. But interestingly, in the detailed Wikipedia discussion of Malmady, they conclude that Durning was not a part of the event. Charles Durning, who overcame poverty, battlefield trauma and nagging self-doubt to become an acclaimed character actor, whether on stage as Big Daddy in "Cat on a Hot Tin Roof" or in film as. First, no one doubts he was at D-Day and the Battle of the Bulge, but he also told me he was there at Malmady. We were frightened all the time. It took Durning 5 years after leaving the military to eventually make his way into acting. Let's discuss the editing here please. One possible explanation for his not being mentioned on this, or vocal generally on World War II, is that I found him listed in Halliwell's Filmgoers Companion as born in 1933. [5]. From there he worked in a variety of plays. The suggestion that it should now be considered "definitive" is laughable, given that its origins are completely spurious.139.48.25.60 (talk) 18:33, 5 May 2009 (UTC), Some insight (OR) This information isn't currently usable in the article itself, since I'm not aware of a published source that can be cited. Charles Durning. During this period, he segued into television and movies. I tend to agree with David T Tokyo, but I'd feel better if the declaration appeared in a better source than the one we have, preferably an official one. Fighting in the Battle of the Bulge, he and the rest of his company were captured and forced to march through a pine forest at Malmedy, the scene of an infamous massacre in which the Germans . Durning served as a soldier in World War II, during which he was awarded a Silver Star, three Purple Heart medals, and a Good Conduct Medal. Although he survived the initial assault relatively unscathed, he was wounded by a German mine a few days later and earned a Purple Heart. They have also lived in La Mesa, CA and Flagstaff, AZ. The French government apparently issued a statement mentioning Malmedy, but the closest I can come is this[1]. And then you'd do three to six plays every year down on Lafayette Street new plays by new writers: Sam Shepard, David Mamet, David Rabe, John Ford Noonan, Jason Miller.". Unfortunately, the vast majority of Mr. Durning's 'war record' merely consists of his own assertions (which varied greatly over the years) or retellings of his assertions, as understood or embellished by others. But, there is no way Durning is the second most decorated hero of WWII, see Audie Murphy and Matt Urban. Below the table, you can find all the information about his birthday. Cheers.InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 05:27, 5 September 2017 (UTC), There's no reason to display the medals or decorations he is said to have received. discussion above, today's AP story on Mr. Durning's death says he was "captured in the Battle of the Bulge and survived a massacre of prisoners." He was honored with the Life Achievement Award at the 14th Annual Screen Actors Guild Award Ceremony on January 27, 2008. Charles Durning Mr. Durning told me he was in that group, but he and six other guys hid behind trees then escaped. (1965), Pousse-Caf (1966), The Happy Time (1968), Indians (1969), That Championship Season (1972), In the Boom Boom Room (1973), The Au Pair Man (1973), Knock Knock (1976), Cat on a Hot Tin Roof (1990), Inherit the Wind (1996), The Gin Game (1997), and The Best Man (2000). He was the son of Louise (ne Leonard; 18941982), a laundress at West Point, and James E. Durning (1883 c. David T Tokyo (talk) 05:40, 15 October 2008 (UTC), This is a major hole in the article. A report from the 12th Replacement Depot has him in England on December 20th, 1944. 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In 1976, he received both an Emmy and a Golden Globe nomination for his performance in the television mini-series Captains and the Kings. and will get the relevant/readable pages uploaded ASAP. The New York Times, which commented on Durning's more than 200 credited roles, referred to him and actor Jack Klugman, who died the same day, as "extraordinary actors ennobling the ordinary". The book contains a bibliography but no footnotes or citations within the text to explain sources. Finally, this story about Durning present at the crossroad is running on several websites since many years. William J. Stepp - 12/23/2009 . Select this result to view Charles Albin Durning's phone number, address, and more. And then you go and do a documentary feature film about the Bataan Death March (as I did last year and will begin screening on Feb. 14 at Brown University) and you end up gaining your own appreciation for the fact that history is just some agreed upon set of stories. He was an infantryman,. Every service member leaves the military eventually. Again, am reluctant to cast aspersions, but not many men advertise their valor awards, but refuse to clearly state what units they served in. "Hollywood Stars at D-Day", Soldiers Online Army.mil. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. He agreed to give us a day, I pulled together an amazing crew of industry veterans (including the very best cameraman I ever got the joy of working with they were all Democrats willing to donate their time for the campaign), we found a location north of L.A., and within a couple days were out there filming. It's right at the beginning of the movie. More memorably, I had a great day hanging out talking World War II with him. Never has Mr. Durning's name been quoted in any single book I have read. He worked with the Coen Brothers again playing "Pappy" O'Daniel, a cynical governor of Mississippi (a character loosely based on the Texas politician and showman W. Lee O'Daniel) in the Coen Brothers' O Brother, Where Art Thou? the men who were in the pasture and who managed to escape the slaughter are all identified and have been interrogated by the US Army as their testimonies where the first material on which the judges would rely during the process. The stockily built Charles Durning was one of Hollywood's most dependable and sought after supporting actors.Durning was born in Highland Falls, New York, to Louise Marie (Leonard), a laundress, and James Gerald Durning. If such a trivial thing deserves mention (which IMO it doesn't), then you would need to provide a reference that someone else is the 2nd most decorated soldier of WWII. Charles Durning, a two-time Oscar nominee known for a wide-range of character roles on film, television and stage, died of natural causes on Christmas Eve. He does not appear in the list of survivors who were brought back to the massacre site. Although he. Set the record straight and, once you have, we can revise it here. Co. X176ADec. 18, 1944 - Dec. 31, 1945. Date of Birth. See: Age (2022) Update Soon. Charles Edward Durning (February 28, 1923 - December 24, 2012) was an American actor, with appearances in over 200 movies, television shows and plays. Other men could probably have the same luck. Before jumping into your new job all gung-ho, you would do yourself a great disservice if you didn't do your research. Blacks later book, The Battalion: The Dramatic Story of the 2nd Ranger Battalion goes into more detail about the 2nd Ranger Battalion. And there's the weakness in Wiki; the burden of proof should be on those making assertions of fact; instead, Wiki gives credence to unsubstantiated, possibly self-serving claims made by individuals, that are only bolstered by second and third hand retellings of that same man's stories. All rights reserved. Mr. Steve Karras, among other researchers, has accessed primary sources such as Durnings discharge papers, his medical records, unit personnel rosters and morning reports, Army General Orders, and other records, as well as secondary sources such as unit official histories, to assemble an accurate record of Durnings military experiences. --65.190.163.190 02:09, 23 May 2006 (UTC). What I know now, was and is still a missed opportunity for us to discuss this event, because like Mr. Durning, my Grandfather, Brigadier General, Norman Cota was an assistant Commander of the 29th. The best result we found for your search is Charles Albin Durning age 70s in Mendenhall, MS. Durning was born in Highland Falls, New York on February 28, 1923, the ninth of ten children. He was nominated for the Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor for both The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas (1982) and To Be or Not to Be (1983). His father was an Irish immigrant and his mother was of Irish descent. Nothing more. His three brothers James (known as Roger, 19152000), Clifford (19161994), and Gerald (19262000) and his sister Frances (19182006) survived to adulthood, but five sisters died from scarlet fever and smallpox as children. [AlanM1(talk)] 23:36, 28 December 2012 (UTC) (Edited 23:39, 28 December 2012 (UTC)), Oldbubblehead (talk) 23:42, 16 April 2013 (UTC), I have received a copy of Durning's military records from the National Archives. The beginning of the Massacre site or citations within the text to explain sources some editing text... Government apparently issued a statement mentioning Malmedy, but the closest I can come this... 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